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	<title>Comments on: CodeIgniter and Agile Development</title>
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		<title>By: Zoltan H</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelvoong.com/2008/08/20/codeigniter-and-agile-development/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoltan H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did a review of his book ( http://yyztech.ca/reviews/book/professional-codeigniter ) and came away from it thinking the Agile methodologies the stronger part of the book as there&#039;s only so many ways you can talk about MVC frameworks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did a review of his book ( <a href="http://yyztech.ca/reviews/book/professional-codeigniter" rel="nofollow">http://yyztech.ca/reviews/book/professional-codeigniter</a> ) and came away from it thinking the Agile methodologies the stronger part of the book as there&#8217;s only so many ways you can talk about MVC frameworks.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Voong</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelvoong.com/2008/08/20/codeigniter-and-agile-development/comment-page-1/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Voong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks - I would have, but I just got a job in .NET development. Stuck with one framework now, I guess!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks &#8211; I would have, but I just got a job in .NET development. Stuck with one framework now, I guess!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelvoong.com/2008/08/20/codeigniter-and-agile-development/comment-page-1/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

You might like to try out the Zend Framework. There are significant benefits over frameworks like codeigniter and it&#039;s steep learning curve is justified by powerful, mature functionality.

http://framework.zend.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>You might like to try out the Zend Framework. There are significant benefits over frameworks like codeigniter and it&#8217;s steep learning curve is justified by powerful, mature functionality.</p>
<p><a href="http://framework.zend.com/" rel="nofollow">http://framework.zend.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelvoong.com/2008/08/20/codeigniter-and-agile-development/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you heard of Symfony (symfony-project.org). I heard of it before CodeIgniter, and while they are very similar I think I prefer it to CI. CI, while trying to be quite strict with the MVC framework it seemed a bit open to me. Maybe I didn&#039;t read the docs well enough (I&#039;ve only tinkered with both, and Symfony has a free book written by the developer) but I could never really work out where each operation should be done. For instance, can a class representing an object have static methods that get the items from the db? I can only assume it must, as there doesn&#039;t seem to be any other way. Symfony specifically makes you use two separate classes for object methods and statically called functions. For instance, a blog article has a class of Article, but the class you call statically to get an article (or a list of articles with a given criterion) is ArticlePeer. It makes nice sense to me. I know it may seem wasteful to have two separate classes, but it makes the code feel nicer to me.

I dunno. If you haven&#039;t heard of Symfony, check it out (and read the docs, free book and check out the example project). You may prefer it to CI... You may find it more work, and these frameworks are made to simplify our existence. I guess you can see it either way. I haven&#039;t given up on CI - I&#039;ll continue playing with it, but we&#039;ll see how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you heard of Symfony (symfony-project.org). I heard of it before CodeIgniter, and while they are very similar I think I prefer it to CI. CI, while trying to be quite strict with the MVC framework it seemed a bit open to me. Maybe I didn&#8217;t read the docs well enough (I&#8217;ve only tinkered with both, and Symfony has a free book written by the developer) but I could never really work out where each operation should be done. For instance, can a class representing an object have static methods that get the items from the db? I can only assume it must, as there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any other way. Symfony specifically makes you use two separate classes for object methods and statically called functions. For instance, a blog article has a class of Article, but the class you call statically to get an article (or a list of articles with a given criterion) is ArticlePeer. It makes nice sense to me. I know it may seem wasteful to have two separate classes, but it makes the code feel nicer to me.</p>
<p>I dunno. If you haven&#8217;t heard of Symfony, check it out (and read the docs, free book and check out the example project). You may prefer it to CI&#8230; You may find it more work, and these frameworks are made to simplify our existence. I guess you can see it either way. I haven&#8217;t given up on CI &#8211; I&#8217;ll continue playing with it, but we&#8217;ll see how it goes.</p>
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